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		<title>By: Thinking of Legal Blogs as Modules &#124; Jason Wilson &#124; Uncategorized</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thinking of Legal Blogs as Modules &#124; Jason Wilson &#124; Uncategorized</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] year I was reading a post by Jordan Furlong titled &#8220;A message to my legal publishing colleagues,&#8221; and in it he [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Does Your Research Include Legal Blogs? &#124; Jason Wilson &#124; Uncategorized</title>
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		<dc:creator>Does Your Research Include Legal Blogs? &#124; Jason Wilson &#124; Uncategorized</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the comments too) discussing the impact of blogs on the law review case comment.   More recent comments have even suggested that legal publishers, much like the newspaper industry, are facing a sea [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Do you search legal blogs? &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Do you search legal blogs? &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: halosecretarialservices</title>
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		<description>Great article Jordan!  I definitely think legal publishers who are ahead of the curve are going to reap the rewards.  And online formats are so much more user friendly (ie the clickable links) that they can target more than just lawyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Jordan!  I definitely think legal publishers who are ahead of the curve are going to reap the rewards.  And online formats are so much more user friendly (ie the clickable links) that they can target more than just lawyers.</p>
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		<title>By: Vulcan's Forge</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You made a comment in this posting which caught my attention and started me thinking about this from a technical viewpoint - namely the idea that law schools could or would soon turn to wikimedia as a means to effectively replace textbooks as a reliable and authoritative source for current law.

I concur that this is a reasonable approach and an elegant solution to the problem which is more or less the reason for the existence of this blog - the publication of legal wisdom in the 21st century.  Wikipedia, for example, has become an effective primary source for encyclopedic information; it is frequently updated, for the most part well-sourced, and by the efforts of a wide range of volunteer editorial staff, remarkable neutral in its point of view.  It does suffer from near constant vandalism, and there is an ongoing battle between vandals deleting articles (or possibly worse, modifying the content with inaccurate information) on the one hand and the editorial volunteers reverting vandalism on the other.

Which brings me to my point (in, I admit, a rather roundabout fashion):  who would maintain editorial control of any potential legalwiki?  Would it be accessible for anyone to edit?  Or anyone at the law faculty supporting it?    How do you confirm the data provided is accurate?

A particular example struck  me as I was thinking about this - say the wiki documents a precedent-setting case which has widespread legal ramifications.  What if the wiki article for that case is edited by someone with a vested interest in misinterpreting or misrepresenting the outcome of that case - and does so in a manner which goes unnoticed for more than a few minutes?  Not beyond the realm of possibility, given that this resource may be accessed by lawyers, paralegals, or the general public with a need for do-it-yourself law.

The modern publishing environment allows you to set a &quot;precedent&quot; which is the diametric opposite of the actual precedent set by the case - and do so in a manner which goes unnoticed by everyone but those directly involved in the original legal action.

I&#039;m not arguing against any of the possibilities here...but I think it&#039;s necessary to keep in mind that, while there are truly mind-blowing opportunities for the publication of knowledge in the modern digital environment, the opportunities to abuse those possibilities are equally staggering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You made a comment in this posting which caught my attention and started me thinking about this from a technical viewpoint &#8211; namely the idea that law schools could or would soon turn to wikimedia as a means to effectively replace textbooks as a reliable and authoritative source for current law.</p>
<p>I concur that this is a reasonable approach and an elegant solution to the problem which is more or less the reason for the existence of this blog &#8211; the publication of legal wisdom in the 21st century.  Wikipedia, for example, has become an effective primary source for encyclopedic information; it is frequently updated, for the most part well-sourced, and by the efforts of a wide range of volunteer editorial staff, remarkable neutral in its point of view.  It does suffer from near constant vandalism, and there is an ongoing battle between vandals deleting articles (or possibly worse, modifying the content with inaccurate information) on the one hand and the editorial volunteers reverting vandalism on the other.</p>
<p>Which brings me to my point (in, I admit, a rather roundabout fashion):  who would maintain editorial control of any potential legalwiki?  Would it be accessible for anyone to edit?  Or anyone at the law faculty supporting it?    How do you confirm the data provided is accurate?</p>
<p>A particular example struck  me as I was thinking about this &#8211; say the wiki documents a precedent-setting case which has widespread legal ramifications.  What if the wiki article for that case is edited by someone with a vested interest in misinterpreting or misrepresenting the outcome of that case &#8211; and does so in a manner which goes unnoticed for more than a few minutes?  Not beyond the realm of possibility, given that this resource may be accessed by lawyers, paralegals, or the general public with a need for do-it-yourself law.</p>
<p>The modern publishing environment allows you to set a &#8220;precedent&#8221; which is the diametric opposite of the actual precedent set by the case &#8211; and do so in a manner which goes unnoticed by everyone but those directly involved in the original legal action.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not arguing against any of the possibilities here&#8230;but I think it&#8217;s necessary to keep in mind that, while there are truly mind-blowing opportunities for the publication of knowledge in the modern digital environment, the opportunities to abuse those possibilities are equally staggering.</p>
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		<title>By: nickholmes</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan - Another old assumption we should throw away is that &quot;legal publishers&quot; means &quot;old-breed legal publishers&quot;. We tend to talk of the more recently established, web-native, innovative legal information/service providers (who by and large do get your 3 points) as a different species. They are not; they are a new breed of the same species! Maybe we should spend less time telling the old breed to change their spots and more time encouraging the new breed to steal their hides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan &#8211; Another old assumption we should throw away is that &#8220;legal publishers&#8221; means &#8220;old-breed legal publishers&#8221;. We tend to talk of the more recently established, web-native, innovative legal information/service providers (who by and large do get your 3 points) as a different species. They are not; they are a new breed of the same species! Maybe we should spend less time telling the old breed to change their spots and more time encouraging the new breed to steal their hides.</p>
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		<title>By: Com Brannigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Com Brannigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jordan,

It is worth more than two cents!

I think I might give it a try and see what happens!

Colm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jordan,</p>
<p>It is worth more than two cents!</p>
<p>I think I might give it a try and see what happens!</p>
<p>Colm</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan Furlong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan Furlong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colm, I suspect the answer may still have something to do with your audience. If the arbitrators you&#039;re targeting still associate prestige and authority with the legacy publishers&#039; brand and format (i.e., hardcover books), then that&#039;s a strong argument in favour of going with one of those publishers. As always, the publication&#039;s real value is determined by the readers, not the publisher or the author.

But I would think an annotated statute would be ideal for placing in an online format, for two reasons: (a) every annotation can be linked to the particular case&#039;s CANLII page, so that the reader can instantly access the decision in question; and (b) updates can be provided quickly and effortlessly within days of a new case&#039;s release, a new regulation&#039;s publication, or the Act&#039;s amendment. Neither of these utilities can be provided in a bound and printed book, and even a CD-ROM can&#039;t be updated as fast as a blog, wiki or website can.

There&#039;s also the question of your own goals. Traditional legal publishing has rarely produced much in the way of direct financial gains to authors (and online publishing promises even less). But if what you&#039;re looking for is publicity and recognition, then I really think an online publication can provide that as well -- again, depending on what your readership values. Keep in mind that being a  online author has rewards beyond a cyber-audience -- high-profile bloggers who carve out a space for themselves online are being more and more frequently contacted by the media (legal and mainstream) for authoritative comment on a particular subject area.

So I think you could go either way, depending on your audience, but I think your proposed project would be a great fit for an online operation. Just my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colm, I suspect the answer may still have something to do with your audience. If the arbitrators you&#8217;re targeting still associate prestige and authority with the legacy publishers&#8217; brand and format (i.e., hardcover books), then that&#8217;s a strong argument in favour of going with one of those publishers. As always, the publication&#8217;s real value is determined by the readers, not the publisher or the author.</p>
<p>But I would think an annotated statute would be ideal for placing in an online format, for two reasons: (a) every annotation can be linked to the particular case&#8217;s CANLII page, so that the reader can instantly access the decision in question; and (b) updates can be provided quickly and effortlessly within days of a new case&#8217;s release, a new regulation&#8217;s publication, or the Act&#8217;s amendment. Neither of these utilities can be provided in a bound and printed book, and even a CD-ROM can&#8217;t be updated as fast as a blog, wiki or website can.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also the question of your own goals. Traditional legal publishing has rarely produced much in the way of direct financial gains to authors (and online publishing promises even less). But if what you&#8217;re looking for is publicity and recognition, then I really think an online publication can provide that as well &#8212; again, depending on what your readership values. Keep in mind that being a  online author has rewards beyond a cyber-audience &#8212; high-profile bloggers who carve out a space for themselves online are being more and more frequently contacted by the media (legal and mainstream) for authoritative comment on a particular subject area.</p>
<p>So I think you could go either way, depending on your audience, but I think your proposed project would be a great fit for an online operation. Just my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Colm Brannigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colm Brannigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jordon,

Very thought provoking and I think you are absolutely correct but at the moment is there a &quot;curve&quot; or many &quot;curves&quot; in the game?

I suspect many, and the crucial decision is to decide which one to take?

As an example, I am considering writing an annotated guide to the Arbitration Act for a major legal publisher.  There is none in print at the moment.  My &quot;old&quot; assumption is that their marketing expertise and the &quot;prestige&quot; of their imprint will produce the best results (ie publicity and recognition) for me.  But maybe I should dump this assumption and instead produce and host an online version?

Or maybe not?

Colm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jordon,</p>
<p>Very thought provoking and I think you are absolutely correct but at the moment is there a &#8220;curve&#8221; or many &#8220;curves&#8221; in the game?</p>
<p>I suspect many, and the crucial decision is to decide which one to take?</p>
<p>As an example, I am considering writing an annotated guide to the Arbitration Act for a major legal publisher.  There is none in print at the moment.  My &#8220;old&#8221; assumption is that their marketing expertise and the &#8220;prestige&#8221; of their imprint will produce the best results (ie publicity and recognition) for me.  But maybe I should dump this assumption and instead produce and host an online version?</p>
<p>Or maybe not?</p>
<p>Colm</p>
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