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		<title>By: Blawg Review # 193 &#171; Charon QC&#8230;the blawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blawg Review # 193 &#171; Charon QC&#8230;the blawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (Later).  Canadian blogger Jordan Furlong&#8217;s Law21.ca blog is a treasure chest of gems. Regeneration, a recent post talks about regeneration and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 2009 : Binary Law</title>
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		<dc:creator>2009 : Binary Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There is hope. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Elefant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn Elefant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved your post, Jordan, but with all due respect, I think that in some ways, the future has been here for a while, residing in solo and small firms across the country, populated by lawyers who have found a way to serve clients, make precedent and have a life on the side.  This is not the end of lawyers, not by a long shot - it is just the beginning and from where I sit, the future has never looked brighter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved your post, Jordan, but with all due respect, I think that in some ways, the future has been here for a while, residing in solo and small firms across the country, populated by lawyers who have found a way to serve clients, make precedent and have a life on the side.  This is not the end of lawyers, not by a long shot &#8211; it is just the beginning and from where I sit, the future has never looked brighter.</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria Pynchon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria Pynchon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan,

As a lawyer who has survived a practice group failure (insurance coverage:  Buchalter); bailed from a sinking ship prior to a merger (Hancock, Rothert into Duane Morris); and, moved on to greener pastures before the collapse of the local office of an old-line firm (Pepper Hamilton&#039;s L.A. outpost); and as the spouse of an attorney who left Heller before its collapse and after 34 years with the firm, I can pretty confidently say that these losses have not to date doomed the megafirm as an institution.  

Nor are these firms all over-leveraged.  Heller certainly wasn&#039;t.  

Most of the lawyers in the merged, failed or re-organized firms simply moved to other large firms -- often larger than the firm they left or the ones that cratered beneath their feet.  

Practice groups splinter with some members staying together; some jettisoning their dead wood; and others opening boutique firms of their own.  

After more than two decades of practice, I see the same lawyers with the same clients litigating the same type of cases.  Only their business cards and their geography change (downtown to century city or vice versa).  

I&#039;ve seen many large firms fail about me -- in the 80&#039;s, 90&#039;s and 00&#039;s.  During that time,  law firms in general just kept on getting bigger; salaries and billing rates higher; and litigation lengthier.  

I believe that each of these firms failed for reasons unique to each, with the present economic cataclysm being the final push at each firm&#039;s weakest point.  

Granted, this is not empirical evidence. 

Still, I thought you&#039;d appreciate getting a little feedback from the street.  

As always, one of your biggest fans.  

Vickie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan,</p>
<p>As a lawyer who has survived a practice group failure (insurance coverage:  Buchalter); bailed from a sinking ship prior to a merger (Hancock, Rothert into Duane Morris); and, moved on to greener pastures before the collapse of the local office of an old-line firm (Pepper Hamilton&#8217;s L.A. outpost); and as the spouse of an attorney who left Heller before its collapse and after 34 years with the firm, I can pretty confidently say that these losses have not to date doomed the megafirm as an institution.  </p>
<p>Nor are these firms all over-leveraged.  Heller certainly wasn&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>Most of the lawyers in the merged, failed or re-organized firms simply moved to other large firms &#8212; often larger than the firm they left or the ones that cratered beneath their feet.  </p>
<p>Practice groups splinter with some members staying together; some jettisoning their dead wood; and others opening boutique firms of their own.  </p>
<p>After more than two decades of practice, I see the same lawyers with the same clients litigating the same type of cases.  Only their business cards and their geography change (downtown to century city or vice versa).  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen many large firms fail about me &#8212; in the 80&#8217;s, 90&#8217;s and 00&#8217;s.  During that time,  law firms in general just kept on getting bigger; salaries and billing rates higher; and litigation lengthier.  </p>
<p>I believe that each of these firms failed for reasons unique to each, with the present economic cataclysm being the final push at each firm&#8217;s weakest point.  </p>
<p>Granted, this is not empirical evidence. </p>
<p>Still, I thought you&#8217;d appreciate getting a little feedback from the street.  </p>
<p>As always, one of your biggest fans.  </p>
<p>Vickie</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Cartier Liebel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Cartier Liebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan,

From the ashes arise new enterprises and opportunities for those with vision.

It is a cycle which repeats itself over and over, again yet one which never fails to shake people to their core.

Great post as always.

An adoring fan :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan,</p>
<p>From the ashes arise new enterprises and opportunities for those with vision.</p>
<p>It is a cycle which repeats itself over and over, again yet one which never fails to shake people to their core.</p>
<p>Great post as always.</p>
<p>An adoring fan :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie/Halo Secretar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie/Halo Secretar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really LOVED this post Jordan and thank you so much for the mention!! I was especially struck by the comparison to the auto industry. I feel terrible for the employees being so affected by the economy BUT, I know that only if we change and try to have vision for the future can any of our businesses succeed - small or big, legal, auto or banks. I make my consumer choices based on companies that have vision - so as a business owner I need to make my choices the same way. I can&#039;t just think about profit, but about accountability and results. I hope more companies start to get that message before their employees suffer the consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really LOVED this post Jordan and thank you so much for the mention!! I was especially struck by the comparison to the auto industry. I feel terrible for the employees being so affected by the economy BUT, I know that only if we change and try to have vision for the future can any of our businesses succeed &#8211; small or big, legal, auto or banks. I make my consumer choices based on companies that have vision &#8211; so as a business owner I need to make my choices the same way. I can&#8217;t just think about profit, but about accountability and results. I hope more companies start to get that message before their employees suffer the consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: michael webster</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael webster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan,

The disintegration of the media industry is to be expected when it became impossible to enforce the traditional copyright remedies because of technology.  New business models, which are not stable, had to spring up.

But the change in the practice of law, the ones you hope for, are not likely to arrive, in my opinion.  The vast majority of consumers of legal products are unable to determine the value of the services they consume.  Attorneys are then forced to construct substitute - large offices, expensive paintings, absurd billing structures- measures of value.   Credence goods are hard to evaluate in the marketplace.

Law, like religion, will have to tend to the more absurd forms of worship, until dispute resolution becomes a business and not a calling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan,</p>
<p>The disintegration of the media industry is to be expected when it became impossible to enforce the traditional copyright remedies because of technology.  New business models, which are not stable, had to spring up.</p>
<p>But the change in the practice of law, the ones you hope for, are not likely to arrive, in my opinion.  The vast majority of consumers of legal products are unable to determine the value of the services they consume.  Attorneys are then forced to construct substitute &#8211; large offices, expensive paintings, absurd billing structures- measures of value.   Credence goods are hard to evaluate in the marketplace.</p>
<p>Law, like religion, will have to tend to the more absurd forms of worship, until dispute resolution becomes a business and not a calling.</p>
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