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	<title>Comments on: The evolution of lawyer regulation</title>
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		<title>By: The UK crucible</title>
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		<dc:creator>The UK crucible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Last month, the Legal Services Board (the new overall regulator of all UK legal services providers) issued a discussion paper asking for lawyers&#8217; input on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Blawg Review #202 &#171; Head-of-Legal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blawg Review #202 &#171; Head-of-Legal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Helsinki gave us an at-a glance guide to those Lisbon treaty ratifications while Jordan Furlong at Law21 looked at a British report but was doubtful about the idea of separate regulation for the biggest [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Potter QC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Potter QC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  support Jordan Furlong&#039;s general skepticism in his post &quot;The evolution of lawyer regulation&quot;.  I cannot see that further regulatory fragmentation in the legal sector is likely to be positive for either lawyers or the public. Rather than narrowing, we need to maintain as broad a perspective as possible, and I&#039;m leery of thinking that such breadth can be maintained with a narrower scope of regulation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  support Jordan Furlong&#8217;s general skepticism in his post &#8220;The evolution of lawyer regulation&#8221;.  I cannot see that further regulatory fragmentation in the legal sector is likely to be positive for either lawyers or the public. Rather than narrowing, we need to maintain as broad a perspective as possible, and I&#8217;m leery of thinking that such breadth can be maintained with a narrower scope of regulation.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Denny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Denny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure I share your anxiety about the potential for splitting the profession.

I readily accept that the work that I do within a 7 partner firm in Bath, UK is fundamentally different to the work that my colleagues in Slaughter and May or Allen and Overy may do.  

I do not see that a separate limb representing or regulating different sectors should be problematic.  The requisite skills and compliances are different after all.  If there was another body, it is not automatic that it will overshadow the existing one, or that either one will be held in higher regard than the other.

Would it not reflect the Court system itself with its divisions between Chancery, Family, Probate and the like?

Where you have an excellent point, I feel, is in highlighting the public interests as a whole given the fallout we are all experiencing from the actions of the banks and institutions over the last however many years.  That suggests that the regulatory body should hold powers and responsibility for guardianship of social/commercial mores and would require a far more proactive, intrusive body.

I cannot think that you will find much appetite for that within the profession even if the suggestion was broadly approved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure I share your anxiety about the potential for splitting the profession.</p>
<p>I readily accept that the work that I do within a 7 partner firm in Bath, UK is fundamentally different to the work that my colleagues in Slaughter and May or Allen and Overy may do.  </p>
<p>I do not see that a separate limb representing or regulating different sectors should be problematic.  The requisite skills and compliances are different after all.  If there was another body, it is not automatic that it will overshadow the existing one, or that either one will be held in higher regard than the other.</p>
<p>Would it not reflect the Court system itself with its divisions between Chancery, Family, Probate and the like?</p>
<p>Where you have an excellent point, I feel, is in highlighting the public interests as a whole given the fallout we are all experiencing from the actions of the banks and institutions over the last however many years.  That suggests that the regulatory body should hold powers and responsibility for guardianship of social/commercial mores and would require a far more proactive, intrusive body.</p>
<p>I cannot think that you will find much appetite for that within the profession even if the suggestion was broadly approved.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Elefant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn Elefant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that we should strive to unify the profession.  In fact, one reason that I started MyShingle was to highlight the accomplishments of solo and small firm lawyers so that large firms could see that we too deal with complex issues and are as capable and competent as our large firm peers.  When I started MyShingle in 2002, major legal media publications simply did not cover small firm issues and accomplishments.  That has changed to some degree, with major publications now offering an occasional section or column on solo and small firm practice.  

I don&#039;t like to assign blame for the chasm between biglaw and small-law in the bar, but I do believe that larger firms are to blame.  Their lack of curiosity about solo practice and small firms is appalling.  Case in point - most solos I know regularly follow blogs like Above the Law, WSJ Law blog and Adam Smith Esq. to keep on top of events in the biglaw world.  By contrast, I&#039;ve never met a single large firm lawyer who has read, let alone heard of blogs such as MyShingle, BuildASoloPracticeLLC or Chuck Newton Rides the Third Wave, to name just a few.

The chasm is a significant problem during this period of economic chaos.  Large firms dominate the ABA and local bars and they will implement rules - like the conflict rules -  to help preserve their practices.  Look at the bars reaction to sites like Avvo that allow solo and small firm lawyers to present a professional presence online at no cost.  What about onerous advertising rules that restrict lawyers from engaging in social networking?  These rules disproportionately impact new solos and small firms which rely on these marketing measures for their livelihood.  
These days, many solos are now looking at opportunities to form affiliations or alliances where firms would market and work on projects collaboratively but maintain their own identity.  When large firms (which have thrived on the one stop shopping model) start losing business to these sleek, low-cost alliances, I predict that they will seek to change bar rules to prohibit law firms from engaging in joint marketing without substantial disclosures that would undermine the value.  
If we can&#039;t bring the bar together, we will find ourselves competing over a diminishing pie, and it won&#039;t be pretty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that we should strive to unify the profession.  In fact, one reason that I started MyShingle was to highlight the accomplishments of solo and small firm lawyers so that large firms could see that we too deal with complex issues and are as capable and competent as our large firm peers.  When I started MyShingle in 2002, major legal media publications simply did not cover small firm issues and accomplishments.  That has changed to some degree, with major publications now offering an occasional section or column on solo and small firm practice.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like to assign blame for the chasm between biglaw and small-law in the bar, but I do believe that larger firms are to blame.  Their lack of curiosity about solo practice and small firms is appalling.  Case in point &#8211; most solos I know regularly follow blogs like Above the Law, WSJ Law blog and Adam Smith Esq. to keep on top of events in the biglaw world.  By contrast, I&#8217;ve never met a single large firm lawyer who has read, let alone heard of blogs such as MyShingle, BuildASoloPracticeLLC or Chuck Newton Rides the Third Wave, to name just a few.</p>
<p>The chasm is a significant problem during this period of economic chaos.  Large firms dominate the ABA and local bars and they will implement rules &#8211; like the conflict rules &#8211;  to help preserve their practices.  Look at the bars reaction to sites like Avvo that allow solo and small firm lawyers to present a professional presence online at no cost.  What about onerous advertising rules that restrict lawyers from engaging in social networking?  These rules disproportionately impact new solos and small firms which rely on these marketing measures for their livelihood.<br />
These days, many solos are now looking at opportunities to form affiliations or alliances where firms would market and work on projects collaboratively but maintain their own identity.  When large firms (which have thrived on the one stop shopping model) start losing business to these sleek, low-cost alliances, I predict that they will seek to change bar rules to prohibit law firms from engaging in joint marketing without substantial disclosures that would undermine the value.<br />
If we can&#8217;t bring the bar together, we will find ourselves competing over a diminishing pie, and it won&#8217;t be pretty.</p>
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