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		<title>Comment on The electric law firm by law firms &#8211; YouTube &#8211; How to interview for an attorney job, law firm &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>law firms &#8211; YouTube &#8211; How to interview for an attorney job, law firm &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The electric law firm [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Consulting Services by Calendar of events</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calendar of events</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] be interested in having me speak or facilitate at an event, by all means please drop me a line or read more about it. And if you&#8217;ll be attending any of the foregoing events, please let me know!  This entry was [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] be interested in having me speak or facilitate at an event, by all means please drop me a line or read more about it. And if you&#8217;ll be attending any of the foregoing events, please let me know!  This entry was [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The hyperlocal lawyer by russ jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>russ jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there still such a beast as a local lawyer</description>
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		<title>Comment on Blawg Review #207 by Blawg Review at Law Firm Web Strategy Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blawg Review at Law Firm Web Strategy Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] last seven days. I hope you enjoy it, and I hope you emulate it &#8212; this is my second Blawg Review in the last year, and I strongly encourage more lawyers to take up the BR challenge: it&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] last seven days. I hope you enjoy it, and I hope you emulate it &#8212; this is my second Blawg Review in the last year, and I strongly encourage more lawyers to take up the BR challenge: it&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on You can&#8217;t charge for that anymore by Law Firm Tells Associates - Only Use Expensive Research Tool When Clients Paying &#124; Wolfe Law Group</title>
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		<dc:creator>Law Firm Tells Associates - Only Use Expensive Research Tool When Clients Paying &#124; Wolfe Law Group</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 19:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] law firms and lawyers have abandoned the practice of nickel and diming their clients, just flat out rejecting that firms should charge for these expenses.   Patrick Lamb publishes an entire blog on the subject (alternative [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on 2009 Clawbies now accepting nominations by Thank you to www.law21.ca. &#171; Fired Without Cause</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thank you to www.law21.ca. &#171; Fired Without Cause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] big thank you to http://www.law21.ca and Jordan Fulong for nominating our blog for the 2009 Clawbies.  We didn&#8217;t seek or expect [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] big thank you to <a href="http://www.law21.ca" rel="nofollow">http://www.law21.ca</a> and Jordan Fulong for nominating our blog for the 2009 Clawbies.  We didn&#8217;t seek or expect [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The new rules of pricing by Heather Atkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather Atkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan:  You have articulated the dilemma facing many legal professionals, both in private practice and in house.  If legal value is based solely on time spent in court, on a transaction, or alternatively only on how many papers cross a lawyer&#039;s desk, there is no incentive to deliver quality, to function efficiently, or ethically. 

 On the other hand if  the traditional  professional qualities of   integrity,  judgment, confidentiality, professionalism  and ethics are not factored into a lawyer&#039;s value  the job can be done by anybody (for example a paralegal) who masters the mechanics of organizing data and disseminating information.  A lawyer&#039;s true value to his/her client is the ability to connect with the client&#039;s needs and guide them through a maze of complexity that they could not otherwise do, or have no interest in doing for themselves.  A true lawyer is a confidante.  In this situation of trust, most clients are happy to pay a lawyers negotiated rate.  

The issue of value billing has become complicated because most professionals have high overheads (insurance, rent, continuing education, training, professional fees etc.) that paralegals do not.  As a consequence a conflict of interest sometimes develops between the attorney and client because the lawyer is forced to see his profession as a business and try to pass costs on to the customer.  Additionally, the widespread availability of non-proprietary information digitally, coupled with a potentially qualified global workforce means that the argument about legal complexity has lost some luster as we move into an age of transparency.   

Further, clients are sometimes unwilling to absorb legal overhead in their billing structures if a paralegal can simulate the function for much less.  Some clients have not been educated to buy into the high value of attorney confidence, privacy, or security in a transaction.  Their view is, why pay more for the brand if you can buy a non-branded product (paralegal) for less.

The solution to this dilemma lies in a basic tenet of business.  As attorneys we need to re-cultivate, re-brand and re-educate clients on the value of our services.  We also need to truly serve our clients needs (by this I do not mean serve the client representative who cuts the check to pay us. He or she is often different from the client).  More importantly we need to ensure that we condition the client&#039;s reasonable expectation of our services while over-delivering on quality and job satisfaction.  

There is a famous saying that &quot;some people &quot;know the cost of everything but the value of nothing.&quot;  If clients and or attorneys only emphasize money, cost and billing while losing focus on professionalism and &quot;value&quot;, or service driven relationships, then the lawyer client relationship disintegrates.  Then, it will only be a matter of time before our entire legal system disintegrates into stress and valueless billing!  Shakespeare said it best, if the objective is mayhem, then &quot;Kill all the lawyers.&quot;  Most people do not recognize that there was a caution and consequence in the quotation.  As lawyers we need to re-establish the bar (pun intended).

On the other hand as lawyers we should realize that our profession is not held in the esteem that we would like it and we are responsible for correcting this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan:  You have articulated the dilemma facing many legal professionals, both in private practice and in house.  If legal value is based solely on time spent in court, on a transaction, or alternatively only on how many papers cross a lawyer&#8217;s desk, there is no incentive to deliver quality, to function efficiently, or ethically. </p>
<p> On the other hand if  the traditional  professional qualities of   integrity,  judgment, confidentiality, professionalism  and ethics are not factored into a lawyer&#8217;s value  the job can be done by anybody (for example a paralegal) who masters the mechanics of organizing data and disseminating information.  A lawyer&#8217;s true value to his/her client is the ability to connect with the client&#8217;s needs and guide them through a maze of complexity that they could not otherwise do, or have no interest in doing for themselves.  A true lawyer is a confidante.  In this situation of trust, most clients are happy to pay a lawyers negotiated rate.  </p>
<p>The issue of value billing has become complicated because most professionals have high overheads (insurance, rent, continuing education, training, professional fees etc.) that paralegals do not.  As a consequence a conflict of interest sometimes develops between the attorney and client because the lawyer is forced to see his profession as a business and try to pass costs on to the customer.  Additionally, the widespread availability of non-proprietary information digitally, coupled with a potentially qualified global workforce means that the argument about legal complexity has lost some luster as we move into an age of transparency.   </p>
<p>Further, clients are sometimes unwilling to absorb legal overhead in their billing structures if a paralegal can simulate the function for much less.  Some clients have not been educated to buy into the high value of attorney confidence, privacy, or security in a transaction.  Their view is, why pay more for the brand if you can buy a non-branded product (paralegal) for less.</p>
<p>The solution to this dilemma lies in a basic tenet of business.  As attorneys we need to re-cultivate, re-brand and re-educate clients on the value of our services.  We also need to truly serve our clients needs (by this I do not mean serve the client representative who cuts the check to pay us. He or she is often different from the client).  More importantly we need to ensure that we condition the client&#8217;s reasonable expectation of our services while over-delivering on quality and job satisfaction.  </p>
<p>There is a famous saying that &#8220;some people &#8220;know the cost of everything but the value of nothing.&#8221;  If clients and or attorneys only emphasize money, cost and billing while losing focus on professionalism and &#8220;value&#8221;, or service driven relationships, then the lawyer client relationship disintegrates.  Then, it will only be a matter of time before our entire legal system disintegrates into stress and valueless billing!  Shakespeare said it best, if the objective is mayhem, then &#8220;Kill all the lawyers.&#8221;  Most people do not recognize that there was a caution and consequence in the quotation.  As lawyers we need to re-establish the bar (pun intended).</p>
<p>On the other hand as lawyers we should realize that our profession is not held in the esteem that we would like it and we are responsible for correcting this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The new rules of pricing by Rob Millard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Millard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan:  You are of course absolutely right but I think many underestimate the magnitude of the change that is looming, or the level of effort that will be required of firms to adapt ... or die.

At the most fundamental level, the whole model of a modern law firm has evolved over the past few decades to align very precisely with the notion of very intelligent, highly independent professionals crafting bespoke solutions for clients and being compensated on an effort-basis. Changing it is not a trivial matter. Over the years, this has also been an extremely successful model. It is facile to argue (a finger pointed not at you but at others) that law firms are simply recalcitrant in not accepting change more readily. The magnitude of the change that is looming in this instance may be akin to what happened in the auto industry when Henry Ford introduced the Model T and assembly lines, driving manufacturers that were building automobiles by hand into bankruptcy or seeing them assimilated into other manufacturers that also adopted the new practices. It also easier for us to see the looming icebergs from our perspective at the masthead because we, as strategy consultants, pay so much attention to these issues, than it is from the perspective of our law firm clients whose lawyers toil in the innards of their ships, shoveling coal and serving passengers.

This is precisely the dilemma that Clayton Christensen describes in &quot;The Innovators Dilemma,&quot; that emerges in the face of a disruptive innovation (and I have no doubt that what we are experiencing right now fits the description.) If Christensen is right, the solutions will come not from the established leader-firms but from the small splinters and start-ups that are not trammeled by established convention and who can move nimbly and change radically with greater ease.  Those solutions, once proven, may well be replicated by the more forward thinking established firms. Those that do not follow suit will decline and be absorbed by the new leaders, or eventually go out of business.

Over the next 3 - 10 years, I expect the landscape of the Amlaw 100 to evolve quite radically as these and other &#039;icebergs&#039; wreak their havoc on those that will not / can not / do not change their course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan:  You are of course absolutely right but I think many underestimate the magnitude of the change that is looming, or the level of effort that will be required of firms to adapt &#8230; or die.</p>
<p>At the most fundamental level, the whole model of a modern law firm has evolved over the past few decades to align very precisely with the notion of very intelligent, highly independent professionals crafting bespoke solutions for clients and being compensated on an effort-basis. Changing it is not a trivial matter. Over the years, this has also been an extremely successful model. It is facile to argue (a finger pointed not at you but at others) that law firms are simply recalcitrant in not accepting change more readily. The magnitude of the change that is looming in this instance may be akin to what happened in the auto industry when Henry Ford introduced the Model T and assembly lines, driving manufacturers that were building automobiles by hand into bankruptcy or seeing them assimilated into other manufacturers that also adopted the new practices. It also easier for us to see the looming icebergs from our perspective at the masthead because we, as strategy consultants, pay so much attention to these issues, than it is from the perspective of our law firm clients whose lawyers toil in the innards of their ships, shoveling coal and serving passengers.</p>
<p>This is precisely the dilemma that Clayton Christensen describes in &#8220;The Innovators Dilemma,&#8221; that emerges in the face of a disruptive innovation (and I have no doubt that what we are experiencing right now fits the description.) If Christensen is right, the solutions will come not from the established leader-firms but from the small splinters and start-ups that are not trammeled by established convention and who can move nimbly and change radically with greater ease.  Those solutions, once proven, may well be replicated by the more forward thinking established firms. Those that do not follow suit will decline and be absorbed by the new leaders, or eventually go out of business.</p>
<p>Over the next 3 &#8211; 10 years, I expect the landscape of the Amlaw 100 to evolve quite radically as these and other &#8216;icebergs&#8217; wreak their havoc on those that will not / can not / do not change their course.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The iFuture by Jordan Furlong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan Furlong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disney&#039;s an intriguing thought -- it&#039;s developing into kind of a maverick among the studios (the only major not to sign up to a recent Hollywood collective to make movies available for download on the web, presumably to protect its interests for future developments). Unlike the other entertainment giants, it has a theme and a brand -- family programming -- that has already been extended to other industries (e.g., Disney Cruise Lines) and could conceivably be adapted to the professional services market (e.g., &quot;Trust your family estate planning to Disney Enterprises.&quot;) Not sure they could do much with the divorce sector, but you never know....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disney&#8217;s an intriguing thought &#8212; it&#8217;s developing into kind of a maverick among the studios (the only major not to sign up to a recent Hollywood collective to make movies available for download on the web, presumably to protect its interests for future developments). Unlike the other entertainment giants, it has a theme and a brand &#8212; family programming &#8212; that has already been extended to other industries (e.g., Disney Cruise Lines) and could conceivably be adapted to the professional services market (e.g., &#8220;Trust your family estate planning to Disney Enterprises.&#8221;) Not sure they could do much with the divorce sector, but you never know&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The iFuture by Ron Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even more interesting: what would happen if Disney got into the legal business?</description>
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